Singing

as for the grunts, I just recalled Si told that Mark uses some kind of chocolate milk or something (I don't remember exactly but the chocolate is important thing ) to grunt better

and yep, you're right, warm water is perfect

btw, what is the perfect time of day for singing in your opinion? When do you usually sing?

I love this thread too!

Well i dont know what is the perfect time, but the worst time is very early in the morning not long you have woken up, have tried and failed
For me the best time is after good warm up and wakin up, usually after 1pm then haha

How about you?

yeah, I agree the real thing you need not to fail is to wake up!

Haha yeah, singing tired i bad, you dont sound as good as you could

As we are speaking about singing what do you think about singers being modified in studio to sound better than they really do?
I think it's stupid and shameless cheating, person who cant sing doesnt have to sound like good singer

of course, it's a shame. and I don't see the point actually. I mean ok, in studio you sound perfect and so but what about live perfomences? if you really suck live and people know it there's no sence to use all these studio things to improve your voice. No one likes to be cheated like that I think.
And btw, some time ago I had some kind of soft program which can make you pitch right note and it's sounds so lame OMG it's easier to sing right than to use this soft, really

Yes i agree, what is the point to sing if you really dont have any talent?
I use echo on my covers because it makes it sound more flowing and beautiful, not really that it would hide my mistakes, i think i shall stop using echo too when i get the new mic if it's sound crystal clear

What do you think about getting your voice layered, like recorded many times in studio and but up on it?

Here's example, you can hear clearly on the operatic parts it's recorded multiple parts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XfjMAvPHI4E&feature=related

I use some kind of reverb too cause without it I sound awful with my shitty mic

oh, I like it very much! it sounds great I'd love to record myself in harmonic way but I always get lazy with mixing and so and it must be quite difficult cause you need to sing the same parts in different ranges and be perfect with pitch otherwise it'll be sound terrible I think you really need notes for vocal lines to do it

He he I have been gone half an hour and this topic has already reached 3 pages btw I sing all the time 24/7 thats how I warm up and my voice doesn't get tired for some weird reason

I actually tried it one demo i got, and it worked out well!
It's true it need's a lot of work to sing it perfectly every time but it's worth it

I'm going to use the certain technique in cover of this song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TheV9eBTT3Q&feature=related

This is going to be the most extreme effort of singing from me so far haha, and it shall be the first song of my in finnish!

I am gonna tell you a secret my recordings I triple the sound so it sounds louder and more stronger but it doesn't really make a difference... and the way I record mine is female basic XD

What do you use for recording Liz?
You always have had great quality in your covers

I use Garage Band on macs I try to make it sound clear sometimes it fail though XD

Like do you record with mic or some other way?

the computer has a built in mic I use that

yep, Liz your soft rules!

and can someone tell me some decent vocal remover?

Ah ok, your lucky it is so good quality

I'm now getting specialized on the higher and longer notes, i shall train low too but i want that to be stronger!

oh thanks I use that to mix and there is a reason why I need you to use the music... I can't cut the music in half I need you to sing at the perfect parts thats why you do it with music...

Audacity is good program to do the cuttings

This could be also good topic to discuss about out upcoming covers and collabs!

Liz would you be ready to record Spellbound in week or two?
I shall record my parts when i get the mic!

yeah but I sound crap in it

I dont believe you
Just train it enough and you wont sound crap!

According to my brother I sing that song so much that he knows the whole song lyrics ....

Haha great, keep training!

Katja i cant wait ''Dreams & Pyres'', it's possible one of the hardest songs ever!

oooh yes indeed and Eetu please don't go like you said on the Picture thingy topic...

I want it to be done too!
yep, it is I mean there's no many parts for me but in choirs I suck I know but you must sound great in it!
how soon are you planning to make the final version?

When i get my mic haha!
I hope Rakkel, Liz, Mary shall join to the choir parts, you shall do alone your solo parts!